1. SPY 3C 1 min be pointing at 118.50. 2. SPY 3C 5 min be pointing at 119.50. 3. SPY 3C daily be pointing at 106.00
If the 1 min feeds into the 5 min and the 5 min feeds into the daily then surely the 5min should be pointing lower than the 1 minute as we've seen nothing but negative 1 minute divergences for weeks.
DVGWEB -with the volume up on TMV as it is, I'd say there's a good chance for follow through. Tomorrow ECB statements though can be a wild card. These are all meant to be "bigger picture trades" DRV looks especially good to me in the consolidation flag. It is showing some very positive activity. Just be sure to use a stop, I would choose to give t more room on the stop through less shares, then increase the shares as it breaks out of the flag.
Pink, the numbers are not important, relative divergences between two relative points are what are important and the reason there's such a difference in the numbers is because of scaling. 1 min data is only stored for 2 days. Daily data is stored throughout history. It's a matter of scaling in intraday data.
So, just to confirm, based on the SPY daily 3C you're basically saying that 'the smart money' now holds less SPY than they did at the start of the September rally? Meaning they have fully distributed all the shares they had before the rally and are now most likely short, and that this should lead to a sell-off soon where we should see the SPY below the level seen at the start of september?
In the first chart, the zoom factor is closer, it has nothing to do with the actual Q's price of $53.10, but I need to zoom in to show you the negative divergence between the two tests of resistance, the second had a negative divergence and price dropped.
You wouldn't be able to see that clearly on a longer zoomed out chart like chart #2 which corelates with the Q's price of <$52. However, the longer zoom chart shows that price is higher and 3C is lower.
3C is a cumulative acc/dist line so it looks at lets call them packets, of acc/or distribution. So when you see a chart like the second, it means there is less accumulation or you could say distribution even though prices are at higher levels. This is interpreted by looking at two points on the chart, usually highs or lows. So what it is telling us is there is selling institutionally into the higher prices.
"So, just to confirm, based on the SPY daily 3C you're basically saying that 'the smart money' now holds less SPY than they did at the start of the September rally? Meaning they have fully distributed all the shares they had before the rally and are now most likely short, and that this should lead to a sell-off soon where we should see the SPY below the level seen at the start of september?"
The first sentence of your question would be very difficult to quantify for a number of reasons, but the premise of the rest of your question is on track. IF there was even confirmation of the trend, 3C should be near the highs in price. The fact it is so much lower is a leading negative divergence, which is the worst kind and this is one of the biggest I've seen since the 2007-2008 period.
I think i speak for most of here when i say, we need to have some idea of 'when'. You say that the SPY daily 3C is one of the worst you've seen since 2007-2008. Can you post comparable daily 3C SPY charts so we can gauge the last time this happened how long it was before the 'market sold off' as the 3C daily chart suggested. I thank you.
also last night and several updates yesterday I mentioned the possibility of a bounce (tweezer bottom, support holding, and later, the overwhelming price/volume relationship that can create a one day oversold condition).
Today the character, meaning the underlying tone of the trade/3C did not show accumulation into the bounce, it did not show confirmation of the bounce, it showed negative divergences, so my opinion is that (and I mentioned this last night as well), the rectangle pattern is popular with the pattern recognition black box systems) all taken together a bounce looked probable, but the tone of it looks to me as if there was heavy selling into it. Also as I mentioned last night, even in strong trends, there can be 2-3 week corrections, but they are just that and the trend continues. The message I'm trying to get across is not to get too caught up in gyrations of the market.
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15 comments:
Brandt,
How can the...
1. SPY 3C 1 min be pointing at 118.50.
2. SPY 3C 5 min be pointing at 119.50.
3. SPY 3C daily be pointing at 106.00
If the 1 min feeds into the 5 min and the 5 min feeds into the daily then surely the 5min should be pointing lower than the 1 minute as we've seen nothing but negative 1 minute divergences for weeks.
Any updates on some of your picks from the other day, like FAZ, TMV, and DRV? TMV looks very good today, do you think there will be follow through?
ADBE as well?
DVGWEB -with the volume up on TMV as it is, I'd say there's a good chance for follow through. Tomorrow ECB statements though can be a wild card. These are all meant to be "bigger picture trades" DRV looks especially good to me in the consolidation flag. It is showing some very positive activity. Just be sure to use a stop, I would choose to give t more room on the stop through less shares, then increase the shares as it breaks out of the flag.
Pink, the numbers are not important, relative divergences between two relative points are what are important and the reason there's such a difference in the numbers is because of scaling. 1 min data is only stored for 2 days. Daily data is stored throughout history. It's a matter of scaling in intraday data.
Brandt,
So, just to confirm, based on the SPY daily 3C you're basically saying that 'the smart money' now holds less SPY than they did at the start of the September rally? Meaning they have fully distributed all the shares they had before the rally and are now most likely short, and that this should lead to a sell-off soon where we should see the SPY below the level seen at the start of september?
Pink, here is an example for you.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/54219262@N05/5224064893/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/54219262@N05/5224064833/
In the first chart, the zoom factor is closer, it has nothing to do with the actual Q's price of $53.10, but I need to zoom in to show you the negative divergence between the two tests of resistance, the second had a negative divergence and price dropped.
You wouldn't be able to see that clearly on a longer zoomed out chart like chart #2 which corelates with the Q's price of <$52. However, the longer zoom chart shows that price is higher and 3C is lower.
3C is a cumulative acc/dist line so it looks at lets call them packets, of acc/or distribution. So when you see a chart like the second, it means there is less accumulation or you could say distribution even though prices are at higher levels. This is interpreted by looking at two points on the chart, usually highs or lows. So what it is telling us is there is selling institutionally into the higher prices.
I hope this clears up the #/zoom issue
Can you still answer my question about the SPY daily?
And, also, what is so significant in terms of 'leading' divergences.
I posted the SPY daily for you, it's at the bottom of the last market update-above.
A leading divergence is more significant then a relative divergence because it is a cumulative effect
Brandt,
I mean this question regarding the SPY daily:
"So, just to confirm, based on the SPY daily 3C you're basically saying that 'the smart money' now holds less SPY than they did at the start of the September rally? Meaning they have fully distributed all the shares they had before the rally and are now most likely short, and that this should lead to a sell-off soon where we should see the SPY below the level seen at the start of september?"
The first sentence of your question would be very difficult to quantify for a number of reasons, but the premise of the rest of your question is on track. IF there was even confirmation of the trend, 3C should be near the highs in price. The fact it is so much lower is a leading negative divergence, which is the worst kind and this is one of the biggest I've seen since the 2007-2008 period.
Brandt,
I think i speak for most of here when i say, we need to have some idea of 'when'. You say that the SPY daily 3C is one of the worst you've seen since 2007-2008. Can you post comparable daily 3C SPY charts so we can gauge the last time this happened how long it was before the 'market sold off' as the 3C daily chart suggested. I thank you.
also last night and several updates yesterday I mentioned the possibility of a bounce (tweezer bottom, support holding, and later, the overwhelming price/volume relationship that can create a one day oversold condition).
Today the character, meaning the underlying tone of the trade/3C did not show accumulation into the bounce, it did not show confirmation of the bounce, it showed negative divergences, so my opinion is that (and I mentioned this last night as well), the rectangle pattern is popular with the pattern recognition black box systems) all taken together a bounce looked probable, but the tone of it looks to me as if there was heavy selling into it. Also as I mentioned last night, even in strong trends, there can be 2-3 week corrections, but they are just that and the trend continues. The message I'm trying to get across is not to get too caught up in gyrations of the market.
Yeah, i'm putting something together now,
Mr.Pink, I think I found a pretty good comparison. I just posted it.
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