Is interest rates about to start going up?
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Yes, I know - it does not make any sense - FED is about to cut
rates...but....real world interest rates are not always what FED wants it
to be.
5 years ago
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Once again. I am SOOO TIRED of this UP/DOWN (SIDEWAYS) movement for the last 6 DAYS to 4 MONTHS.
What the **(F)** is going on?
I thought we were under negative divergences for the last couple of hours, not positive ones headed into the close. This is not a good sign going into a POMO day tomorrow if that is indeed the case. Can you claify please.
You all have such faith in the Fed and their POMO (porno is more like it). This POMO business is a bunch of BS and cannot stop what is coming.
We have seen just went through a month that returned about 10-11% because of this POMO including additional infusion of at least another $20 billion directly by the FED outside of the POMO. Today is a good indication that they will not let this market fall. They might let it correct slightly, but they are going to intervene so that it doesn't fall. Where do you think they are getting all this money. It is coming from the mortgage backed securities that they bought all of last year. These people are currently refinancing at lower rates and returning the money to the FED. They will have close to a trillion dollars that we be at their disposal. So yeah, it does concern me that they can greatly influence the market and affect my short position.
Jack,
And looks like they are goosing the after hours/futures too to limit any damage done today.
Anyone know when this POMO farce ends? How many more dates? Intervention, followed by intervention, that's all this market is. I just don't feel safe closing my 'hedging' shorts yet knowing that the FED can turn and 100 point down DOW day into a positive day at the flick of a switch.
As far as I know, this is suppose to keep going on based on the last FED minutes that were released. They will release the new schedule around the end of this schedule, so probably later this week or next sometime.
Brandt,
Are you still confident that the market has 'turned' (as of Thursday 23rd September) and that we will head down no matter how much POMO monies (and other interventions) are pumped into the market?
I think this says it all:
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/biggest-german-state-owned-lender-just-sued-goldman-sachs-over-davis-square-cdo#new
And look how Goldman nutsacs performed after hours:
http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/gs
First class stick save by the powers that be.
Come on guys. They wanted to keep the market up until quarter end. That's done. Now all the big money has left the market along with the company insiders and the big players are short. The big players will make sure this market tanks hard if they are short. The Fed will not be able to stop it.
Alesund,
The problem i have is that insiders/big players/The FED are all one and the same entity. So, why would one tentacle of the beast (The FED) hold up the market with all its might when the other tentacles (insiders and big institutional players) now need it to go down?
We've already established that the big players have had plenty of time to distribute the modest amount of shares they had going into this rally and that they have also had plenty of time to go short, so what's the reason for anymore FED 'propping up the market' games? Surely the idea situation now for the big players to gain and to cause the small guy as much pain as possible is a waterfall type sell off?
Mr. Pink,
The big players have left the building. They are gone along with company insiders. They are also short. Retail investors are gone and mutual funds are all in. The Fed is alone in the markets now. When the selling starts, it will be an avalanche. That is why they have scheduled these POMOs - to try and keep things from getting completely out of control. Will they be able to do it? I doubt it. The markets want to crash and are ripe for a big one. Everyone expects the Fed to save the day. They are overestimating their powers. These POMOs are for damage control, but the damage will still be severe.
Look at the previous market tops on Stockcharts and at this one right now. Can you see a difference? There is no difference. Topping takes a while. It's a process. If you believe the Fed is all powerful, then never short the market. Wait for pullbacks or crashes to buy. It's that simple.
Alesund,
I agree to a certain degree.
But by your own admissions:
The big players have left the building, so have retail... and the big players have accumulated big short positions. AND YET, the market is still at a 5 month high! Which shows that the FED, who has been on the other side of this selling, has pretty deep pockets and has been able to offset all the selling and still keep the market up at highs...
... so, why should that stop anytime soon?
The big players just recently finished unloading or now finishing the unloading of their positions. They have in the last 2 weeks gone short the market more than any time since late 2008. The game is over. The Fed will try its best to limit the damage but cannot succeed against such an onslaught of selling. Also, there are forces that would love to crash the markets into the election to screw over the Democrats. What better way to ensure that the Republicans regain control?
Alesund,
I'll hold you to that prediction! ;-)
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