Friday, November 19, 2010

Most Interesting Chart Today

 Today you can se while the market was flat, 3C made a big move down on the daily SPY

 Yesterday while SPY was up nearly 1.5%, 3C did not move up, but sideways.

Wednesday, 3C is at the same level as it was on Thursday.

15 comments:

Mr Pink said...

Brandt,

So, the daily SPY chart is in a leading negative divergence 'pointing' to the same level it was at the start of September (before the huge run up we've had). That would suggest one hell of a big sell off is upon us, no?

Brandt said...

If it closes that way, yes it suggests there has been a lot of distribution. Usually when all the shares are distributed, (they may also go short as well), it leaves retail to push the market up, which they usually never can. GM is an excellent Micro-economic example. 3C showed strong negative divergence yesterday. Nearly the entire float was traded in a single day. I assume that mens most of the institutional owners at $33 unloaded to the public. With a majority of shares in the public's hands, GM could not move up and fell. Institutions (as 3C showed today and as the ZH article confirmed) stepped in to protect the $33 support. Like I said, it's an excellent micro-economic example. In the real market there are too many variables that effect timing and such, GM has few variables to be concerned with in comparison.

Mr Pink said...

Brandt,

So, that "1 min Divergences Worsen" post you made earlier.

http://wolfonwallstreet.blogspot.com/2010/11/1-min-divergences-worsen.html

Well, all the averages have finished strongly at todays highs. What do you have to say about that?

Mr Pink said...

VIX now at 7 month lows again.

Brandt said...

"Well, all the averages have finished strongly at todays highs. What do you have to say about that?"

Antagonistic nitpicking. The SPy/DIA since 2 closed .002% higher, the Q's finished lower. The negative divergence seen is still on in the DIA and QQQQ except worse.

Wow you got me on that .002% climb

Mr Pink said...

Brandt,

You posted the "1 min divergences worsen" when the DIA was at
111.69:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gGhyx-JKKA8/TObI4fWHVGI/AAAAAAAAHvE/w5z_fFEeFtE/s1600/dia+1+min.png

The 3C chart points negatively to DIA 111.30. Yet, the market finished up at highs of 112.06. It' equivalent to 30+ DOW points from 111.69 (when the call was made) to 112.06 (the finishing points).

Clearly 3C got this wrong, and it's not really a small margin either. Like i said before, if 3C gets these 'small' daily calls frequently wrong, how can we trust it to act on it, and how can we trust that the 'bigger time scale' calls will be correct?

You're clear to sing 3C's praises when it 'appears' to make a good call, but when it can clearly be seen to make a bad call, it is dismissed and continue on as nothing wrong has happened.

Your hopes for Monday's action? Open higher or lower than the closing price today?

meeeee said...

BRANDT. This is why I keep asking you to use the ***(DAILY SPY)*** chart for LONG term ACCUM/DIST.

You need to post a PICTURE of the ***(DAILY SPY)*** chart EVERY DAY. Thank you BRANDT.

Bert Lynd said...

Why the obsession with shorting? Anyone looking at those charts anyone would see its much easier to be long. IMO shorting is too risky.

Mr Pink said...

Option Trading,

Shorting is too risky? As far as i remember, it was the May flash crash that knocked 1000 points of the DOW in 10 minutes, not added 1000 points in ten minutes...

... and not too mention the numerous single stock flash crashes we see a number of times per week.

This market is sick. And is only being held up by a single corrupt privately owned institution (the FED) that has a history of being 100% wrong on future events.

Bert Lynd said...

Keep telling yourself that. 12k Dow doesn't lie. You can have all the theories and links you want but you guys are constantly on the WRONG side of the market. I quit reading Internet garbage and listing to the fools and I've made a killing.

Rule #1 don't fight the trend
Rule #2 don't fight the fed

Bert Lynd said...

I've been trading since 1996 and shorting is one of the most difficult things to do consistently and profitably. I prefer to sit in cash and buy good stocks on oversold conditions.

Bert Lynd said...

Example i picked up JKS at the open today.

Brandt said...

mee, I have been posting the daily SP chart everyday since you asked.

Brandt said...

OT-There's good trades bot ways, this is not an ideal market for shorting as it's still stage 3, but stage 4 it will be and that's when the mutual funds get killed. I've run 1000's of backtests and it's very difficult to "really" outperform a strong bull market consistently, but where your return goes up against the market significantly is being short during stage 4. While the market itself is not stage 4, there are a to of stocks that are. This is one aspect why Hedge funds generally outperform mutuals by a wide margin and as I said, backtesting confirms this.

That being said, I'm not knocking your style, everyone has to find what works for them best, it's when you deviate from what you are comfortable with that you really get killed. Finding what suits you is a multi-year process and takes a lot of self-honesty and reflection.

Brandt said...

Also with regard to oversold conditions, one of my most succesful trading systems ever tested only bought "overbought stocks" and only shorted oversold stocks. There's no real objectivity in oversold or overbought. Q3 of 2008 proved that on the short side and most of 2009 proved that on the long side.